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BIG DISCOVERY!!!

RAIDEN(LINK) HAS BEEN SEEN IN THE NEW METAL GEAR SOLID: PORTABLE OPS PLUS!!! I am uncertain why this has been, but this has been the first true apperance of Raiden in a portable game(Raviok does not count). He is a playable character. This may also be why the DS Zelda game is Cell Shaded as well....Link has SNUCK ABOARD THE PSP NOW!!! DETERMINED TO TAKE DOWN BOTH SONY'S CONSOLES AND HANDHELD!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9KdlIYcNHw

I never really noticed all that stuff. Thanks for the info...

And I didn't like the Zelda game for the Gamecube, seemed to childish Sad

I didn't find it to be as good as the other games, and yes it felt too childish. This as well all know(now) is because the actual Link was in MGS2 at the time, which is why Cell Shading was used. I explain the bid towards the beginning.

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Dammit! My informant lied to me about the Raikov information! But wait... Raiden appearance on MGS:PO+ means that Nintendo thinks the PSP is gaining too much popularity over their beloved DS, and that they sent Raiden in to see how to stop this from happening...
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YES! Nintendo realizes that the PSP may soon catch up to them with the upcoming AAA games(Final Fantasy Crisis Core, Grand Turismo, GoW, MGS:PO+), and must have been planning to send Link as Raiden in the MGS:PO game from the beginning, which is why they're making the upcoming Zelda DS game in CELL SHADED graphics!


Thanks to zmoney(blame me later), this discussion has been put upon pspiso, for everyone to know. This is not intended for users who can not face the truth about Link....Now, lets read, shall we? -

The Link(IS RAIDEN) "Cycle" :

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yes, and is there a reason zelda is always getting kidnapped? i think snake may alos have something to do with it.

Holy crap, the plot is so thick you can cut it with a knife!! And what I said makes no sense!!!

Anyway, there's just so much info, so the truth HAS to be that RAIDEN IS LINK!!!!!!!!!!



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Nintendo's new system was called the Revolution, but it's name had to be changed because it was leaking it's master plan...



After years of investigation and research on the current gen consoles and their war I finally stumbled upon something that revealed the whole truth.The consoles are having a cold war with secret attacks on each other. For example, you know all those death threats Hideo Kojima got when he did not want to direct MGS3 or MGS4, well that was Sony. Sony realized that the only way to win the console wars is with MGS games, so they had to make him do it no matter what. Luckily Kojima is secretely working for Nintendo, but he left a hidden message on one of his games... If you look closely you will see that...


RAIDEN IS LINK! Yes you heard right, Link is infiltrating both Microsoft and Sony by being inside a game that everyone plays, everysingle gamer in the world has differences, but THEY ALL LIKE METAL GEAR, so Link infiltrated and started his attack, when you are finishing MGS2 the Colonel finds out and tries to stop you, but you still manage to finish your mission.

Why do you think they didn't realese Zelda Phantom of the Hour Glass yet... hmm??? Becouse he's still working in mgs4!!!!!!
(info from MAXIMUM_CARNAGE)

MORE proof Raiden is Link! After editing the triple index of the MGS4 Raiden photo, while establishing a pattern of reverse "links" attactched to it, I have done a double cross of the phase pattern to "Raiden's" face, to UNCOVER.....


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THIS!!!!

Be afraid...

Also, see the message found in the photo I've decrypted?? ...interesting... Undecided

Here is proof:


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Blonde hair, blue eyes, you can't tell their sex (thats why everyone grabs Raiden's crotch, because they know its Link and they want to find out!), they both use swords, Raiden ears are never seen so you cant tell its Link, they both avoid girls, Raiden grabs his swords and guns with both hands so you cant tell he is left handed Link...
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Thats why they made fun of him in MGS3, in MGS3 EVA is one spy, THE OTHER SPY IS RAIKOV and YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIM OUT IN THE GAME, THAT'S WHAT SONY WANTS YOU TO DO, TO TAKE OUT LINK. FINALLY THE MOST SHOCKING PROOF, IN ZELDA TWILIGHT PRINCESS, LINK TURNS INTO A WOLF.


A WOLF EXACTLY SIMILAR TO THE LOGO OF KOJIMA PRODUCTIONS!

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THAT'S WHY THEY KEPT RAIDEN SECRET UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE! IN AN INTERVIEW KOJIMA SAID MAKING MGS2 WAS ONLY PART TIME TO PLAYING POKEMON, ITS OBVIOUS HE'S A SPY FOR NINTENDO!

Link got pissed of at using guns and now wears then ninja suit and uses his sword so he or she fights better now.

In the first MGS4 poster you can see Raiden carrying a baby. THAT BABY IS PRINCESS ZELDA'S OR HER BABY, HE'S RESCUING IT!

The game that will decide the console war outcome is coming out soon, MGS4 and Link will infiltrate it, only then will we know what will happen. Meanwhile Kojima announced his working on a secret project on the Wii... hmmmm... suspicious... could it be the final attack that will end the war!

MGS2 AND LEGEND OF ZELDA WIND WAKER WERE BEING WORKED AT THE SAME TIME, THAT IS WHY THEY HAD TO USE A CELL SHADED LINK, BECAUSE THE REAL ONE WAS IN MGS2! IGN POSTED THE REVIEWS FOR WIND WAKER AND MGS2 ON THE SAME DATE!

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IN MGS2, COLONEL GOES CRAZY AND STARTS SAYING YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE ENEMY FORTRESS, THAT'S BECAUSE COLONES CONTROLLED SNAKE IN THE ORIGINAL NES, AND HE WANTS YOU TO DESTROY SONY BY DEALING MASSIVE DAMAGE TO THE CRABS!!!

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE MOVIE METAL GEAR RAIDEN SNAKE ERASER? THATS LINK TRYING TO KILL SONY BY ERASING SNAKE! ITS PURE PROOF, MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE RAIDEN WILL BE THE MAIN CHARACTER IN FUTURE MGS GAMES, SO THEREFORE NINTENDO WOULD HAVE TAKEN OVER!!!!


Still dont believe me? Then think about this, WHY THE HELL DID SNAKE GO ON A RECONISSANCE MISSION AND WAS ADDED TO SMASH BROTHERS BRAWL? IT'S HIS ONLY CHANCE TO DESTROY LINK! HE TELLS IT TO THE COLONEL! HE MUST KNOW HIS ENEMY, AS HE WATCHES LINK FIGHT FROM THE INSIDE OF A BOX!

The proof does not stop showing up.


Have you noticed the noobs never make Raiden vs Link threads? Thats because its impossible, if that were to happen every ISO server would crash because of a glitch causing massive damage, exactly what the people of Sony want you to do to the crabs (which represent links and stuff)

The new name Wii, has a hidden secret, it means "We imitate iPod", Link found out about this on his last mission... What could this mean?

Proof List:



*In Legend of Zelda Wind Waker you can sneak just like Snake and Raiden by pressing towards a wall.

*In Metal Gear Raiden: Snake Eraser, Raiden travels throught time, as we all know Link is famous for doing this on many of his games.

*Raiden said he had extended VR training, he meant Videogame Reality training, since he has appeared on many games.

*When Solidus Snake scans Raiden's brain, he finds cerebral implants, that was put on his brain so Solidus could not recognize him.

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*Link won the gamefaqs.com character battle twice, that poll was really a study to select the perfect video game character for the mission.

*Ocarina of Time and MGS2 are considered by many to be the greatest games of all time.

*Snake's mysterious appearance in Smash Bros Brawl to destroy Link.
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*Raiden said he fought since he was a child, this is because Link fought as a child on many of his games.

*Raiden's mission was to destroy GW, when he does it the Colonel starts talking about NES games and tells you to stop playing your playstation!

*The Colonel desperately gave out a cryptic final message so you could find out about Link's plan:

"I HEAR IT'S AMAZING WHAT THE FAMOUS PURPLE STUFFED WORM IN FLAP JAW SPACE WITH THE TUNING FORK DOES A RAW BLINK ON HIRAKIRI ROCK,I NEED SCISSORS,61!!!"

Which spells:

It's Link, Link N64.

61!!!, really means 61+3, since there are 3 '!'s, which adds up to 64. As you all know the last appearance of Link on a game for himself was on the N64.

*After Raiden is tortured, he is then naked and grabs his crotch so no one can see his sex. As you all know, Link has always kept his gender secret.

*When Kojima made a study on High School girls on wether they would play a Metal Gear game, most girls said no. Because of this Kojima decided to put the game character that girls love for no reason on his game, Link.

*On a trailer which feature Snake and Raiden fighting over the Main Character chair, Snake wins but at the end when the screen goes black, a sound is heard that lets us know Raiden stole it.

*You enter your name at the beginning of MGS2 and at the end the dog tag has your name on it. Just like you enter your name on Zelda games at the beginning.

*In Legend of Zelda if you attack the chickens they attack you, in MGS2 if you attack the pigeons, they attack you just like in Ocarina of Time.

*When GW goes crazy the Colonel also says: "...after all, this is a type of Role Playing Game..." MGS is hardly ever talked about as an RPG, however the Legend of Zelda is one of the most famous RPGs of all time.

*When Raiden gets the sword, hi has a spin around attack similar to the one Link uses on Legend of Zelda games.

Evidence sent in by some spies!

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THIS IS A REAL LOGO OF FOXHOUND AND LOOK CLOSELY TO THE BULLET THE FOX SHOT, ITS THE BULLET ENEMY FROM MARIO, KOJIMA MUST HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR NINTENDO:

In the Wind Waker,although you play as link,he appears to not know he is the hero of time.His mind is worn out from the VR missions.

-In Ocarina of Time,Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess
Link has agile,leaping moves.Raiden has fancy,quick,ninja movements in MGS4.

-Many people hated Raiden for being the main character in MGS2.Link was successful,but was unable to gain a spot in MGS4.Sony was trying to make fun this by releasing clips of Link,failing to infiltrate MGS3(Snake Eraser).

-[Major Ivan Raidenovitch Raikov, an eccentric, homosexual Soviet major, and dead ringer for Raiden. His name when translated to English, means "Son of Raiden", but is also a Japanese pun on the phrase "raiden no *****" or "Thunderbolt's *****", a reference to his relationship with Colonel Volgin.]
Nintendo Power....Thunderbolt
Homosexual Raikov?
This is another insult from Sony,towards Link,Nintendo......and Kojima
Kojima Production's logo is the Fox Unit picture.It has thunderbolt like feet.
Sony is saying that Link and Kojima are Nintendo's *****es.

Link was never seen with parents.Raiden,was an orphen.


MORE INFO JUST IN(updated 7-16-07): There is a reason Raiden doesn't make an appearance in Metal Gear Ac!d... he was off inside of Kojima Productions Biomechanical Research Labs undergoing personality and appearance reconditioning in preparation for Twilight Princess. Afterwards he went back to undergo the process again for MGS4. And if you remeber, Raikov makes a secret appearance as an unlockable character in MGS: Portable Ops... meaning that he is alive and evetually becomes a child again and then becomes Raiden...

-The sudden appearance of Tingle in Majora's Mask after the huge success of Ocarina of Time..... I smell a Kojima spy that keeps track of Link and the progress he makes....

Cheska's Comment: Hmm, this may just be true..we must stay on the lookout.

-Submitted by Zmoney- thank you for the info!!

NEW INFO(7-15-07): There is a somewhat odd conection with MGS: The Twin Snakes, the only Gamecube Metal Gear game. It's possible the main mission was to blow up your Gamecube so you could not play the new Legend of Zelda game that followed shortly after.

Another thing is how Raiden got a character change from mgs2 to mgs4

The same how Link changed from the cartoon in the windwaker to a darker charcter in Twilight Princess

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At the begining of MGS3 Subsistence if you choose "I am a Metal Gear Solid 2 fan", you will start with a mask of Raiden(who he knows is Link) covering your face. Showing Snake directly mocking Raiden/Link.

And is there a reason Zelda is always getting kidnapped? I think Snake may also have something to do with it...


Cheska's response: Along with that(I know I've mentioned this elsewhere), we are "unusre" whether he/she is a boy/girl. Thus showing Snake is also mocking Raiden/Link by making that "smile" with sparkles at the beginning, showing "Raiden" as a "gay" type person(because of the who "relationship between "Raviok" and Volgin), although, showing he could also be a girl, puttint it back into context knowing not FOR SURE if Link is one or not, ALSO leading to unknowingly knowing if Raiden/Raviok is Link as well. So many things hidden, inside jokes, ect. We must discover more, and reveal the truth that is, RAIDEN BEING LINK!!! Although, that is not really "Snake." It is Big Boss, thus, showing he is on it as well, and wanted to show he did by doing that when you selected that response in the beginning. He must also want to expose and kill Link!

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Yes...thus explaning the fake E3 MGS4 trailer last year where Snake shot himself. Letting everyone think he was down and out. and people let Raiden back inot their hearts, but BAM, Snake came back. The plot thickens.

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Cheska's Response: Yes..very interesting. See, I too, thought about the same thing, and then all of the sudden, RAIDEN COULD KICK *BUTT*! Making you forget about Snake for a period of time, and thinking about Raiden(thus, taking over your mind to like Raiden, thus leading to Link, then NINTENDO!). Link was trying to win us over...but...think about this! Perhaps is was Snake who allowed this, making Link and Nintendo lose their ground, and worry less. Still, I must think about this further first...


-Submitted by glue1992-

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-I also have a follow up to that. It is possible the game was created because Kojima wanted to see how MGS would be like on a Nintendo system(because he may be joining them...someday...maybe). Snake on the other hand could see how Nintendo operated, and could check out his enemies before joining Super Smash Brothers to finally destroy "Raiden" - Link. Snake might have also had a hidden agenda to destroy Gamecubes from all around, and Link, even Mario, if he could. Although, he was spotted by Mario and Yoshi(spy robots, who seemed "friendly.") It was infact a back up plan from Nintendo to make sure Snake would do nothing to stop them(Otacon might have known what to do...but like I said, they were watching him). I will investigate and dig into this more, I shall expose more of the truth! Glue1992, thank you for helping me think of this!!!

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FACT:
The reason that Link never talks in any of the games since MGS2 was because he doesn't want anyone to hear his real voice, which is what Raiden sounds like??!!
Think about it, every Zelda game since MGS has had the capability to have voices in it, but none had Link saying anything!!?!?(except for attack voices, and ahhs, ect).

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